Post by badluckshadow13 on Jun 20, 2009 13:40:08 GMT -5
That dude's so hysterical he needs his own thread.
Not all of you are familiar with the horde of crazed fans known as Mansonites, so allow me to explain something. To everyone but a Mansonite, the term is considered quite insulting. The gathering point for these fans has always been the most comprehensive MM fansite, MansonUSA, aka the Heirophant (or 'phant for short).
This website archived interviews and pictures all the way back to the beginning days of Manson, it was a valuable resource for anyone hoping to keep up with the God of Cheeseburgers.
The forums on the 'Phant however, were an entirely different story. The boards there housed not only Mansonites but some of the most notorious starfuckers among his fans.
Not everyone on the 'Phant was a Mansonite, just an overwhelming majority.
Recently many people were surprised to discover that MansonUSA had gone offline.
At first they assumed it a mistake, until the other top Manson source, the Nachttabrackt posted this:
Bit of a dick move, he's been doing this shit a lot lately.
If it was forum topics being tagged, than that was the fault of users, not site owners, of course it crossed the line, but that was not the site owners' fault
Do you realize what this is? This is punishing someone who idolized you for the sake of making an easy example... *sigh* can you believe Skold was ever willing to assocciate himself with that?
Not all of you are familiar with the horde of crazed fans known as Mansonites, so allow me to explain something. To everyone but a Mansonite, the term is considered quite insulting. The gathering point for these fans has always been the most comprehensive MM fansite, MansonUSA, aka the Heirophant (or 'phant for short).
This website archived interviews and pictures all the way back to the beginning days of Manson, it was a valuable resource for anyone hoping to keep up with the God of Cheeseburgers.
The forums on the 'Phant however, were an entirely different story. The boards there housed not only Mansonites but some of the most notorious starfuckers among his fans.
Not everyone on the 'Phant was a Mansonite, just an overwhelming majority.
Recently many people were surprised to discover that MansonUSA had gone offline.
At first they assumed it a mistake, until the other top Manson source, the Nachttabrackt posted this:
Friday, June 19th, 2009 - 12:16:22
this is not an official statement from Manson but rather informing many of you on some current events. a five page grocery list in small type of further reasons for this could be discussed, but won't. at current. however should various parties continue to f*ck with Manson without provocation (not even including everything done and said about myself for no reason over the past 4 years, and am remaining objective in this situation) such information may be addressed in a public light. a brief statement though is in order before the Katrina shit-storm is full under way.
whether it was genuine or merely a sympathy ploy to "leave" and "sell" the domain name Mansonusa.com, it had become readily apparent that the site owners and administrators were using it for nothing more than an invisible mouthpiece as public slander and defamation against Manson, exploiting his very name (ie - MANSONusa.com) to accomplish this.
for example, it's clever enough to tag over 200 threads with the byline of "(Manson does coke)", deliberately using parentheses so that in every such thread it will be the first to appear. but the story rings quite differently when each and every thread pertaining to the new tour contains the tagline "ihopetheyshoothimonstage". when this is directed towards an artist who HAS had thousands of death threats and who has had friends who have actually been shot onstage, ie - Dimebag Darrell, what may be construed as tongue-in-cheek had slowly escalated and reached the point of crossing the line and had become what is absolutely libelous and criminal. and in a court of law ; absolutely yes. let's remember, all it took was a neighbor's f*cking dog barking allegedly Satanic messages for David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz to kill and wound 13 people throughout New York City in the late 70's.
in the past 24 hours the said site moderators and administrators had apparently gotten wise to the gravity of these implications and had changed "(Manson does coke)" to "(Manzin drinks diet coke)". cute and quaint, yes, but this was nothing more than a coy and disingenuous temporary (and poor) reneging on something which they themselves started. all of this and hundreds more has been documented and screen captured, time-stamps included, with who posted what if any of this ever becomes required for future use.
the internet is not a toy which one can sit reclined at their leather deskchair with a pizza in one hand, a diet coke on the table, in their underwear and continually harass under the assumed cloak of anonymity. even aside from it being documented and fully apparent who was behind this current situation. you do not need a million dollars or be a rockstar either, you only have to know your rights and realize when others begin to feignly believe they have the right to infringe upon your's. this was a case of using Manson's name, image and art, along with a status previously entrusted to the site administrators out of good faith which was wantonly abused by using that status (which was obtained by links, search engine placement, interviews and traffic directed towards to site, ect) for the purpose of public defamation, threats and attempt to steer the entire fan community toward a negative bias against the artist whom they were gathered to venerate, allegedly at one point. one needs only browse a handful of random threads there to realize this was the case but this by no means will imply that Manson has any ill feelings towards the many, many, many fans there who were 110% genuine. unfortunately the bullies ran the broken down playground when there was little elsewhere to play.
discussion on this matter will remain closed, as to prevent this from devolving from vindication into a bitch pissing contest, and further statements, if deemed necessary to occur, should only be from Manson himself and not you or i. furthermore, expect a 'Message Board' link to appear on MarilynManson.com which will direct to our new home here.
N.
this is not an official statement from Manson but rather informing many of you on some current events. a five page grocery list in small type of further reasons for this could be discussed, but won't. at current. however should various parties continue to f*ck with Manson without provocation (not even including everything done and said about myself for no reason over the past 4 years, and am remaining objective in this situation) such information may be addressed in a public light. a brief statement though is in order before the Katrina shit-storm is full under way.
whether it was genuine or merely a sympathy ploy to "leave" and "sell" the domain name Mansonusa.com, it had become readily apparent that the site owners and administrators were using it for nothing more than an invisible mouthpiece as public slander and defamation against Manson, exploiting his very name (ie - MANSONusa.com) to accomplish this.
for example, it's clever enough to tag over 200 threads with the byline of "(Manson does coke)", deliberately using parentheses so that in every such thread it will be the first to appear. but the story rings quite differently when each and every thread pertaining to the new tour contains the tagline "ihopetheyshoothimonstage". when this is directed towards an artist who HAS had thousands of death threats and who has had friends who have actually been shot onstage, ie - Dimebag Darrell, what may be construed as tongue-in-cheek had slowly escalated and reached the point of crossing the line and had become what is absolutely libelous and criminal. and in a court of law ; absolutely yes. let's remember, all it took was a neighbor's f*cking dog barking allegedly Satanic messages for David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz to kill and wound 13 people throughout New York City in the late 70's.
in the past 24 hours the said site moderators and administrators had apparently gotten wise to the gravity of these implications and had changed "(Manson does coke)" to "(Manzin drinks diet coke)". cute and quaint, yes, but this was nothing more than a coy and disingenuous temporary (and poor) reneging on something which they themselves started. all of this and hundreds more has been documented and screen captured, time-stamps included, with who posted what if any of this ever becomes required for future use.
the internet is not a toy which one can sit reclined at their leather deskchair with a pizza in one hand, a diet coke on the table, in their underwear and continually harass under the assumed cloak of anonymity. even aside from it being documented and fully apparent who was behind this current situation. you do not need a million dollars or be a rockstar either, you only have to know your rights and realize when others begin to feignly believe they have the right to infringe upon your's. this was a case of using Manson's name, image and art, along with a status previously entrusted to the site administrators out of good faith which was wantonly abused by using that status (which was obtained by links, search engine placement, interviews and traffic directed towards to site, ect) for the purpose of public defamation, threats and attempt to steer the entire fan community toward a negative bias against the artist whom they were gathered to venerate, allegedly at one point. one needs only browse a handful of random threads there to realize this was the case but this by no means will imply that Manson has any ill feelings towards the many, many, many fans there who were 110% genuine. unfortunately the bullies ran the broken down playground when there was little elsewhere to play.
discussion on this matter will remain closed, as to prevent this from devolving from vindication into a bitch pissing contest, and further statements, if deemed necessary to occur, should only be from Manson himself and not you or i. furthermore, expect a 'Message Board' link to appear on MarilynManson.com which will direct to our new home here.
N.
Bit of a dick move, he's been doing this shit a lot lately.
If it was forum topics being tagged, than that was the fault of users, not site owners, of course it crossed the line, but that was not the site owners' fault
Do you realize what this is? This is punishing someone who idolized you for the sake of making an easy example... *sigh* can you believe Skold was ever willing to assocciate himself with that?