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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 8, 2006 15:55:35 GMT -5
You just love to talk shit, don't you? Pull the 'I'm oh so superior' attitude. You remind me of every trendy-goth out there. Dep, let's go to a club and pretend we don't want to be there, because we're too good for the place. How's that sound? Awww poor baby. You’re just fishing around for cheap generalizations now. “Trend Goth.” Is that really the best you can do? Tut, tut, my little pincushion. You must try harder. Your hardly worth the effort. I see your kind every day. That 'holier then thou' attitude your kind prances around with gets old. Oh yes, sadly, I’m hardly a pin-cushion. I believe that title is reserved for those who have 100, or more, piercings. Not that I haven’t contemplated a place for 100, or more, it’s just that I’m far from it. I’ll tell you what: Come up with a list of questions in which YOU think are better then the ones SCN did. Or shut the fuck up and stop your bitching. How’s that?
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Post by swine and wine on Apr 8, 2006 18:13:43 GMT -5
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTOP!!!!!
shut the fuck up, both of you. i happen to like you both very much. don't change that.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 8, 2006 21:23:18 GMT -5
“Your hardly worth the effort.” You mean you try! LMAO! If you’re making an effort at this palaver then I pity you. “I see your kind every day. That 'holier then thou' attitude your kind prances around with gets old.” You’re just inadequate. Deal with it and move on. ”I’ll tell you what: Come up with a list of questions in which YOU think are better then the ones SCN did. Or shut the fuck up and stop your bitching. How’s that?” Maybe in the future but I have other irons in the fire at the moment that requires my more pressing attention. Put up or shut up. Out of respect to Swine, that's the last I'm saying. I'm sorry, Swine. I'm just fed up with his bullshit high and mighty attitude. I can deal with his pathetic attacks on me; I'm very thick skinned so it's more of a laugh. But when he goes off on my friends for no reason...That's when I speak up.
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Post by squarezero on Apr 9, 2006 3:26:09 GMT -5
WEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! *Runs back and forth some more*
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 9, 2006 16:46:08 GMT -5
SO yea, back to the TOPIC of the thread.... I agree in that those who cannot go on the tour anytime soon could start a thread. IF you don't like this idea, then oh well. You don't have to read the thread.
*Holds a shovel with a maniacal grin and backs swine up*
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Post by TheLance on Apr 9, 2006 23:02:18 GMT -5
It's come to my attention that you can tell when an interview went poorly due to the fact the questions asked are longer than the answers given.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 10, 2006 2:21:13 GMT -5
It's come to my attention that you can tell when an interview went poorly due to the fact the questions asked are longer than the answers given. Oh yeah. Like I said: Raymond just stonewalled them. For being MIA for years, he seemed less then receptive to fill in the blanks. Which I don't get.
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Post by brianbacklash on Apr 10, 2006 6:11:11 GMT -5
Yes, I registered so I could put my two cents in on the subject. How much time and effort I put into my projects, like SCN, is my business and my concern at the end of the day.
In spite of the critisicm, I'm happy to see that there are people who'll still support us when things don't go as well as we'd like. I'll continue working as a music journalist, and I'll continue to enjoy every fucking minute of it.
For those who'd prefer to criticise - and there will always be critics - maybe eventually you'll see the value of what we're trying to do (regardless of our rate of success), and just be happy more people are trying to give more attention to great music and art. I love listening to PIG, I dig what the guys does, and I want to tell more people about it so he has a better chance of succeeding. That's what SCN is all about.
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 10, 2006 8:10:07 GMT -5
Jesus, deppy. He's got the point. He knows he needs improvement and knows he's going to get criticism. Haven't you given him enough negative feedback? Wouldn't it be more fruitful if you told him how to improve rather than just pushing him down? If you just do what you're doing now, nothing would change, and he'd never improve, and we'd still get interviews that tell us nothing.
You're a good member of the forum, but you gotta ease off. You haven't posted anything in any thread in a while, and all you give us is a bitch-fest with some dude you don't even know. I thought you were better than that.
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Post by greatwhite on Apr 10, 2006 14:10:25 GMT -5
Is anyone posting anything PIG related ?
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 10, 2006 14:56:45 GMT -5
Well, the idea of the topic was gearing toward suggestions for good interview questions.
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 10, 2006 17:26:40 GMT -5
Because that makes sense. I'm going to pout, say how unbelievably pissed off and saddened by an incident on the board... but I'm not going to say what it is because that would mean the world would have understanding.
Thanks. Thanks a lot.
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Post by TheLance on Apr 10, 2006 20:57:07 GMT -5
Jesus Christ people, it's the internet. Settle down.
Or at least start your own flame war thread so other ones don't get derailed.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 10, 2006 23:53:32 GMT -5
Jesus, deppy. He's got the point. He knows he needs improvement and knows he's going to get criticism. Haven't you given him enough negative feedback? Wouldn't it be more fruitful if you told him how to improve rather than just pushing him down? If you just do what you're doing now, nothing would change, and he'd never improve, and we'd still get interviews that tell us nothing. You're a good member of the forum, but you gotta ease off. You haven't posted anything in any thread in a while, and all you give us is a bitch-fest with some dude you don't even know. I thought you were better than that. Quite frankly I'm not really interested in posting much anymore. Due to a certain incident (not pox related) I have lost a lot of respect for this board and have been keeping my distance. At the moment I'm only using the board as I would TSC or UHB i.e. for my own needs and any new information I might gleam. It’s only the fact that I’m registered here that you have seen me around at all. I could explain more and make my position a little more understandable but I’m not really bothered at the moment. Then why post at all? If you're that fed up with his place, like you ay you are, then don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. Become a lurker, not an annoyance. Right now: Everything you're saying just sounds contradictory. And I'll end this with the challenge I issued before: Put up, or shut up. Oh yeah...It IS Raymond's partly fault for the shit interview. He could have AT LEAST gave up SOME fucking info. Or better yet: NOT EVEN REPLIED.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 11, 2006 2:31:28 GMT -5
You've left for long periods at a time and no one mentioned you, before. I don't see how you going now, especially after you making a complete jackass of yourself, would change that. And I'm saying you have no right to talk shit because you, yourself, can't think of anything even half as creative. (Though you sure seem to act like you can) Face it: You just like to start shit. You talk a lot of it, too. And...That's about all you really do, now. You've degraded yourself to a common internet troll. Sure, you used to post some useful stuff...But now all you do is talk mad shit. As for the interview...Now, let me clear it up: it would have been better if he had actually given a thoughtful response. Not some half-ass three word comment. But instead, he chose to sit there and stonewall each and every comment. Even Brian admits he's new at this. Raymond, however, is not. He knows what a good, thought out, reply is. And he knew each and every reply he gave was just shit. So yeah, I'd put a lot of the blame on Raymond. Mainly because he had many options when he chose to fill it out. Of which was the delete button. If he was so displeased with the questions, he could have just canned the whole thing. SCN would have moved on and they would have done other people. I've never said SCN was blameless. But that doesn't mean they're bad. They're just new. Still learning this. Besides, there aren't many sites out there that will do things like this and NOT CHARGE. If you had to pay 7.50, or whatever some of them charge, I could see you throwing this big of a bitchfit. But you didn't. It was free. (Maybe part of the reason they haven't been taken serious by bands?) So, this leads me to yet another question...Why are you stomping about like soe gave you a wedgie? This didn't cost you a dime, yet you still act as if they owe you something. What the fuck is your deal?
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 11, 2006 6:42:56 GMT -5
Jesus Christ people, it's the internet. Settle down. Or at least start your own flame war thread so other ones don't get derailed. Long time, no see buddy. Anywhoo, you're right. Perhaps this thread should be deleted and one that's back on topic should remain in its place. And if you don't like it. /joking //no more flamewars please.
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Post by greatwhite on Apr 11, 2006 7:48:45 GMT -5
One must agree....
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 11, 2006 10:58:12 GMT -5
You've left for long periods at a time and no one mentioned you, before. I don't see how you going now, especially after you making a complete jackass of yourself, would change that. And I'm saying you have no right to talk shit because you, yourself, can't think of anything even half as creative. (Though you sure seem to act like you can) Face it: You just like to start shit. You talk a lot of it, too. And...That's about all you really do, now. You've degraded yourself to a common internet troll. Sure, you used to post some useful stuff...But now all you do is talk mad shit. As for the interview...Now, let me clear it up: it would have been better if he had actually given a thoughtful response. Not some half-ass three word comment. But instead, he chose to sit there and stonewall each and every comment. Even Brian admits he's new at this. Raymond, however, is not. He knows what a good, thought out, reply is. And he knew each and every reply he gave was just shit. So yeah, I'd put a lot of the blame on Raymond. Mainly because he had many options when he chose to fill it out. Of which was the delete button. If he was so displeased with the questions, he could have just canned the whole thing. SCN would have moved on and they would have done other people. I've never said SCN was blameless. But that doesn't mean they're bad. They're just new. Still learning this. Besides, there aren't many sites out there that will do things like this and NOT CHARGE. If you had to pay 7.50, or whatever some of them charge, I could see you throwing this big of a bitchfit. But you didn't. It was free. (Maybe part of the reason they haven't been taken serious by bands?) So, this leads me to yet another question...Why are you stomping about like soe gave you a wedgie? This didn't cost you a dime, yet you still act as if they owe you something. What the fuck is your deal? You just don’t like the fact that I have stood firm in my position that the interview was crap and that no matter how much you huff and puff you can’t shout me down with your arguments. You have changed your opinion on the interview throughout this thread proving that you have little faith in your own words. You have had ample opportunities to let this thread die but you keep coming back for the last word because of your own inadequacies. You act like a spoiled child and spend three days playing with the karma because it’s what you have been reduced too. And still you just don’t get it. I have been playing with you. I have been pulling your strings and you’re stupid enough to have sat there and taken it. You’re my toy. Wow, you are full of shit. And full of yourself. It's you who is the idiot here, Dep. I never once said SCN had no faut. (You've only implied that) But what fault they had was VERY little and it was the result at being new with this. Nothing else. That is why I've taken their side and not Raymond. I'm sorry if I'm not a mindless fanboy, like you. I just feel people should be held accountable for their actions...No matter who they are. Maybe when you grow up you'll understand that.
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Post by greatwhite on Apr 11, 2006 13:47:17 GMT -5
Did someone mention deleting this thread ?
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 11, 2006 16:06:04 GMT -5
Did someone mention deleting this thread ? OH I did. I sent a PM to HP. He hasn't been online in a while to respond to it.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 11, 2006 17:09:42 GMT -5
Racist? Xenophobe? Now you are delusional and stupid. Not once have I made a racist or xenophobic remark. Let me guess: Just because I haven’t sided with you and Raymond that automatically makes me those? Because I chose to defend my friends, I’m now a bad person? That’s a pretty weak argument, even for you. And yes, you are mindless. To blindly feel Raymond has no fault in this is pretty damn mindless. But whatever, debating this with you is like debating that Squaresoft has both helped and destroyed the world of Single-Player RPG’s with a fan boy. They refuse to see what is right in front of their face. And no matter how much you prove it, they accuse you of random inane shit. Much like you have. And I have never once said SCN was without blame. You can’t find it anywhere in my posts. But you can find that I said their blame is VERY LITTLE. But you can find that I have said Raymond holds MOST (98%) of the blame.
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Post by swine and wine on Apr 11, 2006 21:09:28 GMT -5
aaaaaand what part of SHUT THE FUCK UP is unclear to you two?! christ, you're both like fucking children. wait, i take that back.. my friend's two year olds are better behaved.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 11, 2006 21:45:19 GMT -5
She's right...We've been acting like animals. This fight is rather pathetic. I'm willing to end it now. How about you, Dep?
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Post by brianbacklash on Apr 11, 2006 22:54:02 GMT -5
Clearly there are questions we (SCN) should have asked that didn't get asked.
As a serious experiment: What are some questions you guys would like to ask Raymond? What criteria makes a question good? What specifically do you consider to be taboo territory?
I'm actually really curious about this. I think it would make a very intriguing conversation. Since I stated my case earlier, I'll let someone take the floor first. I'd like to join, tho.
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Post by TheLance on Apr 12, 2006 1:28:18 GMT -5
Long time, no see buddy. Anywhoo, you're right. Perhaps this thread should be deleted and one that's back on topic should remain in its place. Howdy ho. Yeah, it has been a while hasn't it? Anyway, I'm with you regarding this thread, although I disagree that it should be deleted entirely. HP should just split off the irrelevant posts and make an entirely new thread for them, so we can choose to wade through them all or not. As for good interview technique, I personally wouldn't ask such massively long, involved questions. And I wouldn't get too personal either, though I don't think in this case you (Brian) did. Phrase your questions so that they don't elicit one or two word responses (the 'have you put your demons to rest one is a case in point'). Try to inject some humour if you can. In my opinion, this Cryptopsy interview (http://ruthlessreviews.com/interviews/mikeh/lordworm.html) (with Lord Worm! RAWR RAWR RAWR RAAWR RAWR RAWR!) is pretty sweet, though a lot of the questions were pretty fucken long. With any luck I might get to interview that fucker too, which would be awesome. Ultimately, though, it comes down to whether the interviewee is willing to talk or not. EDIT: The code on this forum fails. Dammit.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 12, 2006 1:56:35 GMT -5
Long time, no see buddy. Anywhoo, you're right. Perhaps this thread should be deleted and one that's back on topic should remain in its place. Howdy ho. Yeah, it has been a while hasn't it? Anyway, I'm with you regarding this thread, although I disagree that it should be deleted entirely. HP should just split off the irrelevant posts and make an entirely new thread for them, so we can choose to wade through them all or not. As for good interview technique, I personally wouldn't ask such massively long, involved questions. And I wouldn't get too personal either, though I don't think in this case you (Brian) did. Phrase your questions so that they don't elicit one or two word responses (the 'have you put your demons to rest one is a case in point'). Try to inject some humour if you can. In my opinion, this Cryptopsy interview (http://ruthlessreviews.com/interviews/mikeh/lordworm.html) (with Lord Worm! RAWR RAWR RAWR RAAWR RAWR RAWR!) is pretty sweet, though a lot of the questions were pretty fucken long. With any luck I might get to interview that fucker too, which would be awesome. Ultimately, though, it comes down to whether the interviewee is willing to talk or not. EDIT: The code on this forum fails. Dammit. Hmm...Good point. But it's a bit hard to keep questions from being two word replies. Hell, look at Calvin Coolidge. The man was a master of saying very little. So, you think questions involving less on the person and more on their work would be a better set up? Something like the Foetus comment, or more about his thoughts surrounding some of his more convoluted songs? This sort of viewer feedback is what will make an interview better and, hopefully, give us better information on the these people we enjoy so much.
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 12, 2006 14:12:13 GMT -5
I guess you gotta learn how to feel out what the interviewee is most comfortable talking about and ask questions around that topic. I dunno. I'm no reporter. So anyone who can dishout good info is really good at what they do.
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Post by greatwhite on Apr 13, 2006 7:58:17 GMT -5
I guess you gotta learn how to feel out what the interviewee is most comfortable talking about and ask questions around that topic. I dunno. I'm no reporter. So anyone who can dishout good info is really good at what they do. Maybe letting the subject see the questions beforehand would help & you could also ask if there's anything which they wish to be asked about ? This would, of course, ruin the 'on the spot' approach but we must think what's trying to be achived.....getting info or catching the subject out ?
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 13, 2006 15:01:57 GMT -5
Most interviews are done via email. This is also why the questions don't get much Elaboration. Brian: do you think a band would object to a few followup questions?
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 13, 2006 17:01:37 GMT -5
I guess you gotta learn how to feel out what the interviewee is most comfortable talking about and ask questions around that topic. I dunno. I'm no reporter. So anyone who can dishout good info is really good at what they do. Maybe letting the subject see the questions beforehand would help & you could also ask if there's anything which they wish to be asked about ? This would, of course, ruin the 'on the spot' approach but we must think what's trying to be achived.....getting info or catching the subject out ? When I do things for television production, anyone who I interview, or make a stand up, they always want to see the questions/script in advance. It makes people a lot more comfortable with what you're doing and you're more at ease to give the right message you want others to hear.
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