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Post by HighProtein on Apr 16, 2008 2:57:14 GMT -5
I was bored at work so I went to the lame ass UHB forums and found this thread... www.theultraheavybeat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2474 What haters This board and the swining are fairly productive, but it looks like uhb has become the kmfdm version of the sick city.
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 17, 2008 12:55:05 GMT -5
They might as well rename that site "We love Sasha K in the butt".
Fanboys. Ick.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 17, 2008 13:11:55 GMT -5
Well there is that mention from Jules about Andy stabbing Raymond with a pencil in order to get him to sing on cue. So, it does sound like a known issue.
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Post by HighProtein on Apr 18, 2008 1:57:41 GMT -5
I guess the title of that lame ass teevee show "Everybody Loves Raymond" doesn't apply to the whole KMFDM fan base.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 18, 2008 2:29:18 GMT -5
They love his vocals. But they crack on everyone. They give Sasha shit when he comes on.
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Post by HighProtein on Apr 18, 2008 6:04:19 GMT -5
Hmm Sascha singing Raymond vocal parts on the 2004 tour? That was good right? No
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Post by Ella on Apr 18, 2008 8:57:42 GMT -5
I think a viewing of the Schaft VHS could solve this argument.
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 18, 2008 9:55:41 GMT -5
Whenever Sasha sings a Raymond song, it sounds terrible. I don't care what those highschool kids say.
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Post by HighProtein on Apr 25, 2008 3:00:11 GMT -5
Whenever Sasha sings a Raymond song, it sounds terrible. JUST terrible? Could ya find a better word?
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 25, 2008 4:32:42 GMT -5
It's not like William Hung's singing it.
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Post by mmmrollingdonut on Apr 25, 2008 5:36:50 GMT -5
Whenever Sasha sings a Raymond song, it sounds terrible. JUST terrible? Could ya find a better word?How about wrong? There's just something not right about Sascha singing a Raymond song. He just can't do them justice and the songs don't feel the same without Ray on vocals. Those guys over at UHB sure like to take jabs at Raymond for some mishaps on stage, but I guess that's just their way of dealing with the sad (for them) truth: Raymond on his worst day still sounds better than Sascha any day. I like Sascha and I've got respect for him, but the facts have gotta be faced. P.S. It seems like my two favorite ex-KMFDM members (Raymond, obviously, and Tim Skold) are dissed no matter what fanbase I turn to. Skold is, at least.
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 25, 2008 9:08:56 GMT -5
Correction: I did like the remix that he did on UAIOE of "kickin' ass". "Thump Thump" I believe the track is called. That isn't so bad... but then again, it is a different song. Which makes it acceptable.
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 25, 2008 20:49:17 GMT -5
JUST terrible? Could ya find a better word? How about wrong? There's just something not right about Sascha singing a Raymond song. He just can't do them justice and the songs don't feel the same without Ray on vocals. Those guys over at UHB sure like to take jabs at Raymond for some mishaps on stage, but I guess that's just their way of dealing with the sad (for them) truth: Raymond on his worst day still sounds better than Sascha any day. I like Sascha and I've got respect for him, but the facts have gotta be faced. P.S. It seems like my two favorite ex-KMFDM members (Raymond, obviously, and Tim Skold) are dissed no matter what fanbase I turn to. Skold is, at least. Did you SEE him during his "GLAM" days?! It's worth YEARS of jabs! It's worse then Sascha's Flock of Seagulls haircut!
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 25, 2008 21:02:39 GMT -5
Well, Skold left KMFDM: a band that prides itself on not being on a major label or being a money machine.... to Manson... who offered him lots of money. And potential fame. I am sad that he made this decision. It ruined Manson and KMFDM no longer goes towards that MDFMK sound that I really enjoyed.
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Post by TheLance on Apr 26, 2008 3:15:00 GMT -5
I can't say I'm too displeased about that. Man Skold's vocals gave me the shits. If he'd just kept his mouth shut and played awesome music I would have loved him, though.
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 26, 2008 8:00:04 GMT -5
He did a good song or two... er...... *thinks a good minute* Skurk? Anarchy?
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Post by 5m4llP0X on Apr 27, 2008 1:51:09 GMT -5
Well, Skold left KMFDM: a band that prides itself on not being on a major label or being a money machine.... to Manson... who offered him lots of money. And potential fame. I am sad that he made this decision. It ruined Manson and KMFDM no longer goes towards that MDFMK sound that I really enjoyed. Sascha has stated, many times, that KMFDM is a business. And he treats it like his business. Plus: Jules does just as well of a job. It's not like Skold's the only guitar player KMFDM has ever had.
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Post by Zer0 on Apr 27, 2008 13:26:51 GMT -5
It's not that he left KMFDM. It's that he sold out. It's more of a philosophy/principle issue... which Sasha puts before business, whether he thinks so or not.
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Post by canotila on Jun 4, 2008 21:30:54 GMT -5
Well, Skold left KMFDM: a band that prides itself on not being on a major label or being a money machine.... to Manson... who offered him lots of money. And potential fame. I am sad that he made this decision. It ruined Manson and KMFDM no longer goes towards that MDFMK sound that I really enjoyed. Wait wait wait! Skold went to Manson? My god I have been under a rock. When did this atrocity happen? Good god, I haven't kept up with Manson since I was like 17 (see: 10 years ago at least)... geez... almost makes me want to stay under this rock... you know, frozen in the mid to late 90s when everything was okay *sigh*
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Post by mmmrollingdonut on Jun 4, 2008 21:41:43 GMT -5
Yeah, Skold's been with Manson since 2001. Now he's finally left that gig behind and hopefully he'll put out some new music.
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Post by canotila on Jun 4, 2008 21:48:06 GMT -5
Yeah, Skold's been with Manson since 2001. Now he's finally left that gig behind and hopefully he'll put out some new music. Okay yeh, that's just about the time where I gave up hope and stopped keeping up with current music lol Call me a grumpy and jaded old woman, but pretty much everything I've heard after 2000 has not been worth my time (aside from musicians/bands I collected before that time releasing new stuff). New music just severely disappoints me.
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Post by Zer0 on Jun 5, 2008 10:38:27 GMT -5
It's ok. Skold left Manson this year, so you didn't miss much. The (two?) albums he produced with Manson kinda sucked... a lot... So it was probably in your best interest to have missed this.
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Post by canotila on Jun 5, 2008 11:54:16 GMT -5
It makes me sad when good muscians get stuck with sucky stuff. On a simliar note, does anyone know anything about new ohGr? Their webpage has been saying forever there is a new album and tour about to get going... but seems things aren't updated much.
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Post by Ella on Jun 9, 2008 8:59:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd love an ohGr update too. Right now I believe he's still filming 'Repo! The Genetic Opera' I have to agree with you there. Some new(ish) bands are pretty damn good but the majority are soul destroyingly woeful
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Post by canotila on Jun 9, 2008 10:04:33 GMT -5
Yeh I know he's been working on that. He did post a few pics of him and Loki working on stuff in his studio. I guess I'm just impatient. I love ohGr and I wanna make babies with Ogre. There are good new bands? I gave up looking years ago. I'm soooo picky about music. My boyfriend often bitches at me for being so close-minded and I hate being so close-minded, but I likes what I likes and I generally cannot stand the rest.
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Post by HighProtein on Jun 11, 2008 2:27:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd love an ohGr update too. I have one ohgr update... The new OhGr cd will most likely be out before the new PIG one.
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Post by Ella on Jun 11, 2008 10:39:14 GMT -5
Lol! Now how on earth did you narrow it down to such an exact date?!
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Post by canotila on Jun 11, 2008 12:10:28 GMT -5
Lol! Now how on earth did you narrow it down to such an exact date?! His toaster gives him prophecies from upon high... mine just makes fun of my hair.
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Post by cracked on Jun 12, 2008 7:56:37 GMT -5
I'm probably gonna get lynched for saying this but... kmfdm without watts and esch is just average at best! without those two there's no way sascha would be where he is today.
Toasters are evil portholes to the hell dimesion where everything smells of burnt hair, blech!
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Post by canotila on Jun 12, 2008 8:28:40 GMT -5
Toasters are evil portholes to the hell dimesion where everything smells of burnt hair, blech! Shhh! They can hear you! They know where you live, they've seen where you sleep! Don't piss them off!
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